CRYING OVER SPILT MILK – Certain Barbadians mourn loss of old Pine Hill Dairy Milk, Others praise new Ultra Pasteurised Brand

TamalesWhen I was just beginning at CBC, I would have Hormel’s Spicy Tamales for lunch very often – cheap and easy to prepare, a {then} bachelor’s dream… Forgetting that many people of Barbados are some of the most critical and malicious people in the Universe – a hideous combination of itself, I dared open my container to face inspection from the retarded horde…

WHA’S DAT?” One of them screeched – not unlike dry chalk on a dryer blackboard – not affected by the scorn, I took my time and explained – in vain…

NOT ME, I STICKING TO MY GOOD BAJAN FOOD!” they Jingoistically squawked, since I revealed Tamales were Mexican, and I said if they don’t know a food they would avoid it, but for me? If it’s new then I must try it out! I received stares from canteen users like if I was Klaatu or Gort. Then the adjudicators actually admitted to pride in their basic knowledge of Culinary Delights, and squealed in abject terror when they learned I ate snails/escargot in Garlic Butter and had Calves’ Brain as a fritter.

Those canteen regulars at CBC were not the only Gustatory Luddites I encountered, when Virgin Atlantic launched Upper Class seating for the Caribbean in September 2000 – there was a chance to hobnob with Richard Branson at the Round House in London (former chalk quarry turned nightclub) and when the speeching was done, it was time for dinner – here’s what the Bajan Media ate…

Nation Publishing? Had a Caribbean platter… VOB 92.9? Ordered a steak… Why, I wondered to myself, would you eat what you already got at home? Sooooo…. That crazy Anchor from CBC?? He had Greek cuisine! Olive leaves with Feta Cheese, etc. and the Barbados posse looked at me aghast like I was a traitor.

PHD-001This leads me to my amazement and wry sardonicism at the way folk here are up in arms over new packaging and procedure for preparing Milk by the Pine Hill Dairy.

Here are some of the reactions over on facebook (I had to use my Gmail notifications to source these remarks as the originator of the debate removed the original thread, Tks to God 4 Gmail!);- “It’s not Milk any more but now a Milk Product.” or “It tastes different, also ultra treating apparently reduces the levels of some vitamins in milk, therefore its not as healthy as fresh milk. It’s an inferior product. Plus I’m told they no longer do the larger size cartons, so if you drink a lot of milk – you end up paying more as you have to buy more smaller cartons And I don’t like the spin – they’ve moved from selling a lovely fresh healthy product, to a over processed long life less good for you product and are trying to suggest this is a good thing.” Plus, I was invited to join the Facebook group “Pine Hill new milk is disgusting“, which contends that;-

For all of you who think that
a) the new milk tastes horrible
b) we had no choice
c) wtf is with no 2 L packages anymore?

"What to my wandering eyes did appear?" Clement C. Moore one penned, equally appropriate here - look at the blue box or carton next to the Italia D'Oro staffer very closely....

"What to my wandering eyes did appear?" Clement C. Moore once penned, equally appropriate here - look at the blue box or carton next to the Italia D'Oro staffer very closely.... CLICK ON IMAGE FOR LARGER SHOT

To try and provide balance I sought twice to state IMHO that the new PHD is not so bad… Here is a response;-

I read on the Pinehill page that Sophia {Cambridge} went on Brass Tacks and said the product is the same, only the packaging has changed. Now i didnt hear Brass Tacks yesterday but if that is true (the fact she said it, because even Pinehill admit it isnt the same product inside) her credibility has plummeted drastically!

But that is the writer’s view, for me, I tried it and yes there is a difference but not so bad, I quite like it! In fact, when I was at Big B yesterday, I wheeled up the Dairy aisle and found a woman who was just staring at the new Cartons. When I walked forward to get some she then says, “I HEAR DEM TASTE BAD!” so I look at her and asked if she tried it out herself, but she just shook her head.

I said what I told the CBC Canteen posse years ago, if it’s unknown then there am I to see for myself, and she said in a schadenfreude way “IT GON’ GI’YOU DIARRHEA!” I gave a huge grin and said the only way I will know is if I try, so far no runny pooch up to my milking this story for what it’s worth… Go and get a carton, I like it and it’s not that different just has a longer shelf life – unless it’s all a ploy to allow businesses to import milk from abroad?

UPDATE – I went to the Bmex show at the ex-Sherbourne on Two Mile Hill (separate story coming soon), and had me a Frappe at Italia D’Oro booth like I usually do, and noticed how so many Bajans were gleefully ordering Espresso Frescantes and other iced coffee goodies, but guess what? The staff used the new 2% from PHD for all of the beverages and folks said not a word as they were none the wiser! This proves any discontent is all in the head!

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  1. Problem with this new product, is not really the taste, but the odor. Most people tend to smell milk just before use to see if it still smells “good”. This new one does not smell pleasant and can lead you to think that it is off. Actually spoke to quite a few people who smelt it, threw it away and bought another carton only to realise that it had the same smell.

    Reports are that PHD is looking into correcting this. Obviously they have realised that something is wrong.

    If used in another beverage such as Frappe, it is unlikely that you would smell it and hence the gleeful orders.

  2. Of course it’s different! I’ve heard of little kids not wanting to drink anymore milk because of this milk. How can we let Pinehill do this to Barbados? Any other country will offer the option of fresh milk vs UHT milk. Pinehill for some business reasons decided it’s better for them to carry UHT, and they don’t care that people can neither drink Fresh milk (althought they call it fresh milk) or that they just want fresh milk available to them! Come one, Bajans we are entitled to options just like the rest of the world!

  3. If it was an American company who had Ultra Pasteurised milk selling, then Bajans could not get enough – but ’cause ‘um is we? Bajans wanna make war over MILK? Man watch Sean Penn – chooopse!!

  4. So true,the milk tastes great,all this fuss is uncalled for…

  5. PLEASE READ MY WRITINGS About foreign exchange and bajans. they buy foreign and beg local.

  6. Pinehill should not be allowed to take options away from us. If we want fresh milk we should get fresh milk. If we want UHT we should get UHT. If we want both, we should get both! Progress is not about taking people’s options away but rather about expanding them!

  7. A shrewd business decision was made, but without a proper feel of the possible market reaction.

    I am sure you would remember how other monopolies in BIM have treated us over the years…and how quickly a competitor gained market share once they were able to open their doors.

    If this was a larger market, people would just switch to a competitor and they would lose market share… plain and simple.

    I have not come across anyone who wishes to drink UHT milk (accept on this website). They have all expressed their desire to drink the “fresh milk”.

    Can it really be called “fresh” now? Or are they just using this tactic to keep their referred status in the market?

    Also, I realise that the quality of the juices and flavored milks have suffered as well – I now no longer wish to give my children them because of the higher sugar content they now have. You may as well drink Tang or buy some other juice. They have cut too many corners in order to reduce overhead and the product has suffered along with their image.

  8. The new UHT milk smells AWFUL…..I just hope that my 3 year old doesn’t get her hands on the carton before eating her cereal. Truly disgusting! Most disappointing. The only thing fresh about it is the smell….from right between the cow’s back legs! (oops….sorry!)

  9. So how do you explain my personal experience where I do not find it offensive? The Chocolate Milk could use some revision but the Strawberry is really good!

  10. Thanks for sending me the link Ian. Some people like the new milk some people don’t, I had a latte with it when it was first produced, didn’t know it was a ‘new product’ & took it back because I thought there was a problem with it, didn’t like the taste & also found it left an ‘after taste’
    I’ve since been told that the first batch was processed twice by mistake (?) is this why there was such an outpouring against it? No idea if that’s true or not. I’m one of those people who doesn’t really like UHT milk, so my choice, I’m not drinking it! Some friends say its OK in tea/coffee but can’t take it on cereal.
    My quarrel is that Pinehill are selling a UHT milk as fresh, which is wrong, that’s what the petition was about, changing the labelling.

  11. Moooo – nice drink, what is their problem? At least give the thing a chance?



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